APC systems (Web, IGC, GreenNet, Pegasus, etc.)

Gary S. Trujillo (gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us)
Thu, 4 Aug 1994 01:58:40 -0500


I just wanted to write a few words about one aspect of the NativeNet
lists of which most subscribers are probably not aware, namely their
linkage with "electronic conferences" on the worldwide member systems
of the Association for Progressive Communications (APC). When I get
time, I'd like to write a few more articles on various other subjects,
in order to deal with questions I get asked from time to time.

It's a very funny feeling being in the position of having the ability
to send out articles via the NativeNet lists, but not being able to
receive mail. But in a way, it's kind of nice not being subject to
the distractions of having to deal with the regular stream of articles
that ordinarily arrive on a daily basis that have to be sorted through.
(But, since it's been a whole day that my regular link has been down,
and I still have no idea how much longer it will be before it's fixed,
I should mention that if anyone needs to contact me about anything
urgent, you can send me mail at either "gst@ursa-major.spdcc.com" or
"gst@alice.terc.edu" - I've set forwarding from both these accounts
so that I'll get mail from them fairly quickly, with the second being
probably a bit better than the first, since the TERC machine is set to
call mine to relay messages if and when new mail arrives there.)

Please note that this and most of the articles I'm sending out now in
my "cleaning out the queues" mode are somewhat old - going back as far
as January of this year. Most of these articles are from the APC
networks, a set of fee-for-service bulletin-board systems operated by
a consortium of organizations around the world. One article I'm about
to transmit ("Native Journalist Association") was passed on by Susan
O'Donnell, of SAIIC Canada (the South and Meso-American Indian Information
Center, with main headquarters in Oakland, California) via the "Web"
system in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Other APC affiliates include IGC,
the Institute for Global Communications, which operate the PeaceNet and
EcoNet systems from their offices in San Francisco, California, GreenNet,
which covers the U.K. from London, England, Pegasus, in New South Wales,
Australia, and NordNet in Stockholm, Sweden, which serves the Scandinavian
countries. There are other APC affiliates in many other countries, in
South America, Western Europe, and Russia. To get more information about
the APC systems, and how you can access them on a fee-for-service basis,
either via Internet (telnet) connections or using a dial-up modem hookup
(generally via a packet-switched network, to avoid long-distance costs),
I think you can send a message with any content to "apc_info@apc.org"

The NATIVE-L list is linked with a number of APC "electronic conferences"
so that users of the systems mentioned above, in English-speaking parts
of the world, can access NATIVE-L articles without having to subscribe
to the mailing list. They can just select a given article by a number
assigned to it by the conferencing system. They can also post articles
to any of a number of conferences ("gen.nativenet," "web.native," "rainfor
.general") in order to get those articles considered for inclusion in the
NATIVE-L list (most articles come from "gen.nativenet" and "web.native" -
the former dealing with the subject of indigenous peoples of all parts of
the world and the latter being exclusively for subjects pertaining to the
aboriginal peoples of Canada). Articles from other APC conferences, like
"hr.indigenous" and "indig.rights.oz" (about the human rights of
indigenous peoples and the rights of the aboriginal peoples of Australia,
respectively) will generally be approved for posting to NATIVE-L, while
articles from the rainforest conferences ("rainfor. general" and "rainfor
.worldbank") will be carried only if their subject matter pertains fairly
directly to the interests of indigenous peoples.

In order that any replies to articles coming from APC conferences are posted
back to those same conferences, in addition to being carried on NATIVE-L,
the software I have developed for relaying articles back and forth uses a
special address in the "Reply-To:" line if the conference from which a
given APC article has come is other than "gen.nativenet" (which will use
the regular "native-l@gnosys.svle.ma.us" address). You may see a variety
of addresses in this line. They do not represent separate mailing lists,
as some have assumed, rather they are just a device for ensuring that the
subscribers to APC lists will get the benefit of both sides of a conver-
sation in the appropriate forum.

Do not worry if you don't understand the above explanation. It's just
one in a series of articles I hope to write once I have the time to do
so, to explain a bit more of how things are set up for the NativeNet
mailing lists and how you can utilize the lists effectively. I'm looking
forward to getting the present mail problem resolved and to the time when
Jay feels well enough to resume his post as new moderator of NATIVE-L and
NATCHAT, so I can "shift gears" and move on to some new activities.

I'll try to be rather selective in the articles that I pass on. I know
that it would have been best to have relayed most of these articles earlier,
when the subjects they address were more current - but I've just gotten busy
at times, and have hesitated for one reason or another, putting off decisions
about whether or not to relay given articles and then just forgetting about
them. So I intend to post to NATIVE-L only those articles which I feel
might have some lasting value, and that I feel should be included in the
NATIVE-L archives, which they will be at the same time they're sent to
current subscribers.

I hope that I'll be able to once again receive e-mail at my normal address
and that postings to the NativeNet lists will begin arriving here for
approval very soon.

Gary

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    Gary S. Trujillo                            gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
Somerville, Massachusetts                {wjh12,bu.edu,spdcc,cdp}!gnosys!gst